I've been thinking about some of the awards for the competition, and wish to sound out opinion. Should the competition offer some overall awards? One would be an overall champion (like the Ninkasi Award at the US NHC) for the brewer who scores the most points (6 for 1st, 4 for 2nd, 2 for 3rd)
Others might be for the best mead f cider across the mead and cider categories. Let me know what you think.
Overall awards?
Overall awards?
Ali
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Re: Overall awards?
I can understand having a best in show award for all 3, but in my opinion "champion brewer" doesn't really mean an awful lot because it could just go to whoever enters the most beers. Obviously some of those beers need to be good enough to gain points, but it's pretty likely that it ends up being a rich person's prize.
Gaining awards for multiple entries will be its own reward I'd think.
Gaining awards for multiple entries will be its own reward I'd think.
Taz... or Chris. It's up to you.
Re: Overall awards?
Thanks for the reply. It was an idea, that I wanted to sound people out about. There is the issue that an overall brewer prize becomes as much the product of who can afford to enter the most...
Ali
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Re: Overall awards?
My honest repy is that a beer competition should be a beer competition. There are plenty of cider and perry competitions throughout the year judged by other ciderists or experienced cider judges. As for mead, cyser, pyment and all the other abominations they should not be in a beer competition either. Calling class 28A a cider is just a horrible american abuse of the good name of cider let alone 28C, words fail me.
So, should there be an overall (who wins the most categories) award - no, irrespective of whether you include cider and the other 'drinks' or not.
So, should there be an overall (who wins the most categories) award - no, irrespective of whether you include cider and the other 'drinks' or not.
Re: Overall awards?
I take your point here, and maybe it's better just to keep this as beer. I'll just adjust the website so that only beer categories are open.trunkster wrote:My honest repy is that a beer competition should be a beer competition. There are plenty of cider and perry competitions throughout the year judged by other ciderists or experienced cider judges. As for mead, cyser, pyment and all the other abominations they should not be in a beer competition either. Calling class 28A a cider is just a horrible american abuse of the good name of cider let alone 28C, words fail me.
So, should there be an overall (who wins the most categories) award - no, irrespective of whether you include cider and the other 'drinks' or not.
Ali
BJCP National Judge
BJCP Assistant Regional Director (North-East/Europe)
American Homebrewers' Association International Subcommittee
Organizer, National Homebrew Competition
CBA UK Competition and Training Coordinator
http://serenbrewing.com
BJCP National Judge
BJCP Assistant Regional Director (North-East/Europe)
American Homebrewers' Association International Subcommittee
Organizer, National Homebrew Competition
CBA UK Competition and Training Coordinator
http://serenbrewing.com
Re: Overall awards?
[quote="Trunky"] As for mead, cyser, pyment and all the other abominations they should not be in a beer competition either.
Maybe Mead shouldn't be in a beer competition, but it isn't an abomination - it is what we are all destined to nonchalantly sip in heaven between kegs of real AG beer ; )
Maybe Mead shouldn't be in a beer competition, but it isn't an abomination - it is what we are all destined to nonchalantly sip in heaven between kegs of real AG beer ; )
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Re: Overall awards?
I don't like mead and calling it an abomination was quite polite, you should hear what I say about wheat beers.....
Re: Overall awards?
Do i get kicked out on my first day for saying that Wheat Beers are lush?
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Re: Overall awards?
Let's take this elsewhere, huh?
Ali
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BJCP Assistant Regional Director (North-East/Europe)
American Homebrewers' Association International Subcommittee
Organizer, National Homebrew Competition
CBA UK Competition and Training Coordinator
http://serenbrewing.com
Re: Overall awards?
Sorry.
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